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Mal sehen, wie dann letztendlich die Quote sein wird. Jeep spricht ja von weniger als 1%, die eine schadhafte Batterie haben.

Beim Schmökern in alten Forums-Beiträgen ist mir wieder mal diese Perle aus einem amerkanischen Wrangler-Forum in die Finger gekommen. Lange nicht mehr gelesen, aber wahrer denn je....., und beliebig übertragbar. Das muss einfach auch hier rein.

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Hello JK owners! First let me say congratulations. There is now a Jeep
that is newer than yours. As I’m sure you all know, every Jeep newer
than the generation that you own is an abomination that must be shunned.
For the last 11 years it was YOU the JK owners that carried the burden
of having the shitty new Jeep. But now, with the reveal of the new JL
Wrangler you no longer are stuck with the worst Jeep ever made! However,
it’s not time to celebrate yet. There’s a lot of work to be done before
you’re truly ready to pass the torch of shame on to the next
generation.

CJ, YJ, and TJ owners have all gone through this process before and now
it’s your turn to join us in the traditional hating of the new Jeep! To
help you though this exciting and emotional time I have prepared this
simple step by step guide on how exactly to hate new Jeeps while
establishing the JK as the last truly great Jeep.

Step 1 - Announce the death of Jeep:
The first step is the most important. Jeep has suffered many deaths over
the its 76 year existence. In a futile and foolish attempt to keep up
with market and regulatory demands, Jeep’s many owners made various
changes to the very core and soul of Jeep itself ultimately leading to
the total death and failure of the brand.

These announcements usually take the form of “Jeep died in _______ when _______ took over and made the ________.”

Let’s look at a few examples of past deaths:

"Jeep died in 1970 when AMC took over and made the CJ-7."
"Jeep died in 1987 when Chrysler took over and made the YJ."
"Jeep died in 1997 when Daimler took over and made the TJ."
"Jeep died in 2007 when Chrysler took over again and made the JK."

So now say it with me, “Jeep died in 2018 when Fiat took over and made them make the JL.”

Now of course some people may not understand why a new model immediately
marks the death of Jeep. That's why we need to explain it to them in
simple terms.

Step 2 - Develop a rallying cry:
Every new Jeep has changes. Everyone hates changes. Choose
what you believe is the most egregious of these changes and form your
campaign behind it. The fact that the new Jeep has or doesn’t have this
feature means that it isn’t a real Jeep. This will be your rallying cry.
Put it on bumper stickers, in your signature, your flair, or in the
posts you make. Let’s take a look at some past examples:

Real Jeeps have round headlights!
Real Jeeps have two doors!
Real Jeeps don’t have air conditioning!
Real Jeeps have leaf spring suspension!
Real Jeeps don’t have power locks and windows!
etc.

Now let’s try some of our own,
Real Jeeps don’t have an 8 speed transmission!
Real Jeeps don’t have LED fender lights!
Real Jeeps don’t have an electric drivetrain!
etc.

Here we’ve established what makes the new Jeep an objectively terrible
vehicle, however not everyone will be convinced by a simply catch
phrase. That’s where step 3 comes in!

Step 3 - Craft your long form rant:
Express your displeasure at the dilution of the Jeep community.
Establish blame for the death of Jeep. These statements serve the duel
purpose of disparaging new Jeep owners and discouraging others from
following in their footsteps. This one is easy. Just fill in the blanks.

“These new (Model) owners. A bunch of (Group of people typically not
associated with Jeep) and (Second Group of people not associated with
Jeep)who care more about looks than capability. Jeeps were never meant
to have (New feature) but these (Groups chosen before) won’t buy a car
without them. What’s next? (Absurd luxury feature)? What happened to
making the most capable vehicle they could make? You can’t even get a
(Removed feature) anymore because most of these people won’t do any more
off-roading than the grass at their local (Location popular with new
generation’s current “hip” crowd). It’s not even a real Jeep anymore
it’s just (Jeep brand’s current owner) trash. And they’re so expensive
too. These people drop (Current MSRP, fully loaded) for what’s basically
just a (modern vehicle generally viewed as "uncool") with the Jeep
logo. And the ones who modify their Jeeps are just as bad. It’s all just
bolt on (Low end parts supplier) bumpers and (Newest vehicle lighting
technology) lights. All about appearance and nothing about substance.
AND THEY NEVER WAVE!”

See? it's easy when you can just reuse old arguments! Now that the Jeep world knows that you’re mad, what do you do?

Step 4 - Attack the JL Owners:
These people are ruining Jeep and they need to know it! They’re no
better than people who bought the Compass. If you see one on this
subreddit or elsewhere on other forums let them know that they don’t
drive a real Jeep and aren’t welcome here. I know it seems harsh but
believe me, the only way to make sure the Jeep community survives is to
make sure no new people are allowed in ever.

Respond to simple questions with total distain. Downvote pictures of
stock JLs or new purchases. Make sure nobody feels welcome. Don’t tell
them about the trails you like or offer to go off-roading with them.
They are unworthy. If they wanted to get into Jeeps they should have
done it the way you did it. You earned your Jeep. You scoured the earth
looking for that perfect restorable Jeep. You spent countless hours
rebuilding every nut and bolt from scratch. You didn’t just waltz into
some dealership and finance some bland new car. You built your Jeep.*

* Note: If you bought your JK new from a dealership then you should
instead tell JL owners that they should have gone back in time and
bought a new JK like you did.

By now it should be clear to the JL people where they stand in the community. Now we need to make sure it stays that way.

Step 5 - Maintain The New Status Quo:
This may be the hardest part. As more and more JL owners begin to flood
the roads and trails you need to make sure you stick to your guns. The
new JL owners may seem nice. Their Jeeps may seem cool or even Jeep like
but make no mistake, they are still driving an objectively worse
vehicle than yours.

NEVER concede that there are good things about the new Jeep. Avoid the mistakes others have made in the past such as:

“Man I wish I had air conditioning in my Jeep.”
“Coils do ride better on the road.”
“Power locks actually sound pretty nice in cold weather.”
“Your Jeep DOESN’T leak everywhere?”

Saying nice things about the new Jeep should be seen as a sign of weakness. You’re not weak. You’re a JK owner.
You may find yourself admiring the JL from afar. You may start reading
great things on automotive websites. You may even feel a desire to test
drive one yourself. Resist this temptation. The JK is the greatest Jeep
ever made.

I'm not going to lie to you dear JK owners, Step 5 is where most people
fail. For years Jeep owners have tried to definitively prove that their
Jeep is the last great Jeep, yet despite this Jeep sales continue
stronger than ever. Maybe this can change with you. If enough people
hate on the JL with enough forcefulness, you can not only make sure that
people know that the JK is the last great Jeep, but make sure that the
JK is also the last Jeep period.

Which is what we all want… right?

That concludes today’s tutorial.

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Wobei ich das mit dem Sound aber schon wieder etwas peinlich finde. Entweder ich mach was neues und stehe dazu, oder ich lass es sein. Wenn man unbedingt was essen will, was wie Bratwurst aussieht und wie Bratwurst schmeckt, dann darf man halt kein Veganer werden.

Bei den 4xe Modellen war dieses Feature bisher nie zu finden, das hatten nur die klassischen Verbrenner.

Jetzt haut FCA US aber mal richtig einen raus:

Wenn man der deutschen Jeep Weibsteite glauben kann, wird die "Maximum Care" in der Form hier ja gar nicht mehr angeboten. Dort wird nur noch das Paket "Flex Care" beworben, was aber ein 3-stufiges Wartungspaket ist, wo dann nur in der höchsten Stufe zusätzlich zu den Kundendiensten auch die Garantieverlängerung enthalten ist. Mir scheint, das Chaos bei Jeep ist größer denn je, Durchblicken tut da niemand mehr.

Es macht zumindest einen soliden Eindruck, man müsste mal noch das Kleingedruckte lesen und die Preise kennen. In Deutschland gibt es die Garantieverlängerung durch Jeep nur in Verbindung mit dem Full-Service Wartungspaket für horrendes Geld. Einzeln wird die Garantieverlängerung in Deutschland gar nicht angeboten.

Zitat von Lutzer

Also ich hab die Garantie mit "FCA Austria Gmbh" abgeschlossen

Das ist ja der Hammer, was da in Österreich angeboten wird. Das gibt es in Deutschland überhaupt nicht.

Für das ganze B9A-Prozedere Laden, Flashen, Checken, Schlafen, Checken, Schlafen, Checken sind ungefähr 9 Stunden einzuplanen. Je nach Softwarestand am Auto kann es noch notwendig sein, dass zuvor noch weitere Updates aufgespielt werden müssen. Eine "schnelle Nummer" ist B9A definitiv nicht

Da bleibt dir nur der Gang zum Jeep-Händler des geringsten Misstrauens um dort ein Ticket zu eröffnen.

Cool. Die Seite kannte ich auch noch nicht, danke fürs teilen!

Da hat dir dein Händler aber ganz schönen Unsinn erzählt. Natürlich hat der Compass Live-Traffic. Bei vielen Autos musste man das aber erst in Italien richtig konfigurieren, damit es funktioniert.

Abgeschaltet wird nichts, das Navi ist weiterhin nutzbar, nur halt ohne die Einberechnung der Live-Verkehrsmeldungen. Das Kartenabo muss man sowieso separat buchen.

Die Alternative heißt Handy anstecken und da drüber navigieren. Ich weiß nicht wie aktuell der Status hinsichtlich der Nutzbarkeit ist, aber so wie das Live Traffic bei mir funktioniert hat, würde ich nicht mal einen Euro dafür bezahlen. Die Kosten für das Karten-Abo kommen ja auch noch oben drauf.

Was das mit dem ominösen Auslieferungsdatum auf sich hat, würde mich auch mal interessieren.

Die 50km sind nur im Sommer und mit ausgeschalteter Lüftung/Klima zu schaffen. Dazu braucht es auch eine Strecke mit gutem Reku-Anteil, also eher Stadtverkehr statt Autobahn. Ansonsten sind die schon genannten 45km eher der Standard.

Wenn solche Blöcke oder Reste davon noch drin wären, müsste man die doch sehen. Die sind eigentlich immer in Signalfarbe Gelb oder Orange.

Ich habe mal die beiden Threads zum Thema B9A zusammengefügt.

Wenn ich das richtig sehe, was die Kollegen aus USA so berichten, ist die Software für die Erkennung des Batteriefehlers bereits verfügbar. Ihr solltet demnach zeitnah die Werkstatt anrufen und auf Abarbeitung des Recalls drängen.

Ein paar interessante Details zum Prozedere habe ich noch gefunden. Das Auto muss dazu zwei mal drei Stunden "schlafen", bevor das Ergebnis feststeht, ob die Batterie ersetzt werden muss.

An kreativen Ideen und gutem Design hat m. M. n. bei Fiat noch nie gefehlt.

Vielleicht auch noch mal die Lizenz-Datei checken bzw. neu herunterladen.